RED Label Engraving

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jccredlabel
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RED Label Engraving

Post by jccredlabel » Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:01 pm

My collecting interest has now targeted the Engraved Ruger Red Labels. The short story is my first is a 2005 20 gauge with the grouse.

The second is Ruger Hand Engraved 20 gauge photo like can be seen in the 2005 Ruger Catalog. After some research John J Adams Jr. has been identified as the the engraver. It was further discovered that fewer than 400 of these were made.

The third is 1999 50th Anniversary Engraved 20 gauge with a Pheasant.

From a letter from CEO M.Fifer It has been gleaned that Automated Finishing produced the Ruger Engraved Red Labels, I presume they also produced the 50th Anniversary Engraved since the scroll work is the same pattern. I think it is interesting that different game birds were used to differentiate the two offerings in 20 gauge.

I would sure like to hear from some Ruger Retiree or some of you Ruger Gurus If you can add to this story. This seems like information that should be preserved if/while while it is still available.

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Re: RED Label Engraving

Post by 67stingray » Thu Jun 27, 2019 5:45 pm

That's a cool set to collect, glad you shared your interest in them, not me but I'm sure some of the group will have some great info. Show us some pics, we like pics.
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Re: RED Label Engraving

Post by Watertender » Thu Jun 27, 2019 10:09 pm

SPAS15 is our British Red Label Man. He is a great guy and will be interested in your collection.
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jccredlabel
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Re: RED Label Engraving

Post by jccredlabel » Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:36 pm

Mary sent me a note that her Husband and her Son engraved a total of 382 red labels
401-* = 50
411-* = 190
420-* = 70
430-* = 72

Sadly her note did not specify which were A, B or C grade(s) I have reached out to see if these were designed by some one else and adopted by Ruger as A, B, C patterns or patterns that the Adams Engravers developed them selves? I hope some day this information will be preserved for the sake of history.

jccredlabel
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Re: RED Label Engraving

Post by jccredlabel » Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:33 pm

Mary sent me a note that her Husband and her Son engraved a total of 382 red labels
401-* = 50
411-* = 190
420-* = 70
430-* = 72

Sadly her note did not specify which were A, B or C grade(s) I have reached out to see if these were designed by some one else and adopted by Ruger as A, B, C patterns or patterns that the Adams Engravers developed them selves? I hope some day this information will be preserved for the sake of history.

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Re: RED Label Engraving

Post by jccredlabel » Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:25 am

After reading the catalog and the Ruger book by R.L.Wilson. The question occurred, were the designs engraved by the Adams, their designs or patterns provided by Ruger?

It seemed like a good reason to follow up with their office manager. Mrs. Adams, Mary sent me a reply a day ago.

It turns out the scroll designs, like my shotgun, were designed by the Adams. The nick and dot border design was designed by someone at Ruger..

With a little luck maybe we can learn who that might have been?

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