Well........SN 28's were mine out of the Russ Wistler Subscription SN Pgm, which I assumed in '84. They went to John DeBruque as a result of a real estate purchase here in the Near North Woods. The SN 29 guns came out of the Simms SN 29 estate auction in the late 80's(Simms being an old Friend of WBR and a Remington Arm executive.